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	<title>Comments on: Free Entrance, Free Coffee, Free WiFi&#8230;Free Rooms?</title>
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	<description>Travel industry thinking from Stephen Budd and Vicky Brock at Highland Business Research</description>
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		<title>By: Free stuff available for free right here where it&#8217;s free : Tips from the T-List</title>
		<link>http://blog.highlandbusinessresearch.com/2008/03/11/free-entrance-free-coffee-free-wififree-rooms/comment-page-1/#comment-754</link>
		<dc:creator>Free stuff available for free right here where it&#8217;s free : Tips from the T-List</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Interesting post on the Highland Business Research blog, dissecting the latest muse from Chris Anderson (for it is he, man of the Long Tail fame). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Interesting post on the Highland Business Research blog, dissecting the latest muse from Chris Anderson (for it is he, man of the Long Tail fame). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://blog.highlandbusinessresearch.com/2008/03/11/free-entrance-free-coffee-free-wififree-rooms/comment-page-1/#comment-680</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan - having stayed in Etap rooms myself, I can see that they would probably be the kind of places where you could get away with having an advert on the walls of the room - I think that at a certain level of the market, you might just accept that as part of the &#039;cost&#039; of a cheap room. 

Martin - thanks for the info on Vegas.  I thought that this must be happening somewhere but couldn&#039;t put my finger on exactly where.  Also an excellent suggestion about cruises!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan &#8211; having stayed in Etap rooms myself, I can see that they would probably be the kind of places where you could get away with having an advert on the walls of the room &#8211; I think that at a certain level of the market, you might just accept that as part of the &#8216;cost&#8217; of a cheap room. </p>
<p>Martin &#8211; thanks for the info on Vegas.  I thought that this must be happening somewhere but couldn&#8217;t put my finger on exactly where.  Also an excellent suggestion about cruises!</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think some hotels in Las Vegas offer &#039;free rooms&#039; as as incentive to get punters in. In this case, the ancillary revenue - the guest&#039;s losses - will more than cover the revenue lost from the room rate.

One sector where Anderson&#039;s latest theory might work is cruise.  A free cabin, but you pay for drinks, food, facilities. No popping out to the local supermarket if you&#039;ve 300km from shore.

Or how about a mash-up -  gambling-led cruises?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some hotels in Las Vegas offer &#8216;free rooms&#8217; as as incentive to get punters in. In this case, the ancillary revenue &#8211; the guest&#8217;s losses &#8211; will more than cover the revenue lost from the room rate.</p>
<p>One sector where Anderson&#8217;s latest theory might work is cruise.  A free cabin, but you pay for drinks, food, facilities. No popping out to the local supermarket if you&#8217;ve 300km from shore.</p>
<p>Or how about a mash-up &#8211;  gambling-led cruises?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan G.</title>
		<link>http://blog.highlandbusinessresearch.com/2008/03/11/free-entrance-free-coffee-free-wififree-rooms/comment-page-1/#comment-674</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stayed in an etap in Munich which was perfectly functional but not necessarily &quot;pleasant&quot; at 50 euros a night (about 30 pounds). Accor could, I reckon, offset a bit more of the price with a big advert on the wall. The room wasn&#039;t exactly luxurious anyway so an advert would hardly offend. According to Andersonomics the lower price would drive demand, eyeballs and therefore the ad rate. With a hotel room too, you often have captured attention. A free wi-fi access would give you the mechanism to track the effectiveness of the ad by click-through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stayed in an etap in Munich which was perfectly functional but not necessarily &#8220;pleasant&#8221; at 50 euros a night (about 30 pounds). Accor could, I reckon, offset a bit more of the price with a big advert on the wall. The room wasn&#8217;t exactly luxurious anyway so an advert would hardly offend. According to Andersonomics the lower price would drive demand, eyeballs and therefore the ad rate. With a hotel room too, you often have captured attention. A free wi-fi access would give you the mechanism to track the effectiveness of the ad by click-through.</p>
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		<title>By: soutschek.com - dive into the map &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Free geodata for marketing the long tail of tourism</title>
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		<dc:creator>soutschek.com - dive into the map &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Free geodata for marketing the long tail of tourism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I came across an article called Free Entrance, Free Coffee, Free WiFi&#8230;Free Rooms, which was posted on the Tracking Tourism Blog. Steven, the author, picked up on Chris [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Reinhard</title>
		<link>http://blog.highlandbusinessresearch.com/2008/03/11/free-entrance-free-coffee-free-wififree-rooms/comment-page-1/#comment-668</link>
		<dc:creator>Reinhard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the companies don´t earn any money, there will not be a future for the company,  &quot;Free!&quot; might be a a marketing slogan but not much more.  An example which we sold successfully in our destination about 15 years ago, was a mountainbike-bike product called &quot;Get your mountainbike an a free holiday on top&quot;. We (a touriste office) got a price reduction from the KTM Bicycles Manufacture and instead of selling the bikes cheaper, the customers got free holiday vouchers. The benefit: Clients pay the same price as in any bike-shop but buying with us they got a free holiday between 3 to 7 days (depending on the hotel category) At that time we called it co-operation, today we call it crossmarketing or: &quot;0.00  is the Future of Business????&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the companies don´t earn any money, there will not be a future for the company,  &#8220;Free!&#8221; might be a a marketing slogan but not much more.  An example which we sold successfully in our destination about 15 years ago, was a mountainbike-bike product called &#8220;Get your mountainbike an a free holiday on top&#8221;. We (a touriste office) got a price reduction from the KTM Bicycles Manufacture and instead of selling the bikes cheaper, the customers got free holiday vouchers. The benefit: Clients pay the same price as in any bike-shop but buying with us they got a free holiday between 3 to 7 days (depending on the hotel category) At that time we called it co-operation, today we call it crossmarketing or: &#8220;0.00  is the Future of Business????&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin, I think the key is to have  range of services within the offering that enables the right degree of cross subsidy to occur.  I&#039;m not sure that a niche accommodation provider could do this but I can imagine that a niche tour provider might - assuming that their package involved rooms, meals, guides etc.

Actually, that&#039;s made me think that the another  example of the &#039;three way&#039; model might be in the arrangements similar to those found in coach tours where the coach drops 30 willing spenders at a &#039;honeypot&#039; and the driver and guide get their backhander from the honeypot for delivering them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, I think the key is to have  range of services within the offering that enables the right degree of cross subsidy to occur.  I&#8217;m not sure that a niche accommodation provider could do this but I can imagine that a niche tour provider might &#8211; assuming that their package involved rooms, meals, guides etc.</p>
<p>Actually, that&#8217;s made me think that the another  example of the &#8216;three way&#8217; model might be in the arrangements similar to those found in coach tours where the coach drops 30 willing spenders at a &#8216;honeypot&#8217; and the driver and guide get their backhander from the honeypot for delivering them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin May</title>
		<link>http://blog.highlandbusinessresearch.com/2008/03/11/free-entrance-free-coffee-free-wififree-rooms/comment-page-1/#comment-665</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin May</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now it strikes me, without going into too much scrutiny of Anderson&#039;s early synopsis, that perhaps this doesn&#039;t quite fit the Long Tail?

Well, it certainly throws up some questions with regards to Long Tail of Travel and &quot;Free&quot;.

Could niche operators, for example, with little or slim volumes being able to offset by going free?

Hummmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now it strikes me, without going into too much scrutiny of Anderson&#8217;s early synopsis, that perhaps this doesn&#8217;t quite fit the Long Tail?</p>
<p>Well, it certainly throws up some questions with regards to Long Tail of Travel and &#8220;Free&#8221;.</p>
<p>Could niche operators, for example, with little or slim volumes being able to offset by going free?</p>
<p>Hummmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://blog.highlandbusinessresearch.com/2008/03/11/free-entrance-free-coffee-free-wififree-rooms/comment-page-1/#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reinhard/Vicky - again both good points.  

I think the thing that&#039;s coming through again is that this would be tough for a small independent operator to do - they tend not to have directly employed instructors/guides etc and so it needs that ability to offer a more diverse portfolio of services (beyond lodging) or sheer volume to achieve it.

I&#039;m not sure about resorts although I always assumed that, beyond the different costs of living in various counties, that some all-inclusive resorts &#039;loss led&#039; on lodging and made the money on incidentals.  Can anyone confirm this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reinhard/Vicky &#8211; again both good points.  </p>
<p>I think the thing that&#8217;s coming through again is that this would be tough for a small independent operator to do &#8211; they tend not to have directly employed instructors/guides etc and so it needs that ability to offer a more diverse portfolio of services (beyond lodging) or sheer volume to achieve it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about resorts although I always assumed that, beyond the different costs of living in various counties, that some all-inclusive resorts &#8216;loss led&#8217; on lodging and made the money on incidentals.  Can anyone confirm this?</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an interesting example Reinhard, because presumably there is exactly that element of captive market in your scenario.

I assume it is the case that once people are in residence at a ski resport, they don&#039;t tend to wander off that much? And presumably the ski lessons etc are of higher value than off season accommodation?

I&#039;m not sure if it the direct opposite or exactly the same principle as the all inclusive resorts, where food &amp; drink is free and presumably revenue is on the accommodation and extras like sports and trips.  

Stephen - your post has made my head spin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an interesting example Reinhard, because presumably there is exactly that element of captive market in your scenario.</p>
<p>I assume it is the case that once people are in residence at a ski resport, they don&#8217;t tend to wander off that much? And presumably the ski lessons etc are of higher value than off season accommodation?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if it the direct opposite or exactly the same principle as the all inclusive resorts, where food &#038; drink is free and presumably revenue is on the accommodation and extras like sports and trips.  </p>
<p>Stephen &#8211; your post has made my head spin!</p>
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