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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
		<link>http://blog.highlandbusinessresearch.com/2007/10/01/how-social-media-like-flickr-and-you-tube-has-become-an-influence-on-destination-selection/comment-page-1/#comment-637</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A rather shameless plug there Jena - hence my delay in deciding to whether to approve the comment or not -  but an interesting example, so thank you.  

There are number of other destinations/communities that I think are currently working very successfully in this manner,  for example:

Sweden - http://communityofsweden.com
Tourism BC - http://uk.britishcolumbia.travel/en-CA/default.htm

and also Holland - http://us.holland.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A rather shameless plug there Jena &#8211; hence my delay in deciding to whether to approve the comment or not &#8211;  but an interesting example, so thank you.  </p>
<p>There are number of other destinations/communities that I think are currently working very successfully in this manner,  for example:</p>
<p>Sweden &#8211; <a href="http://communityofsweden.com" rel="nofollow">http://communityofsweden.com</a><br />
Tourism BC &#8211; <a href="http://uk.britishcolumbia.travel/en-CA/default.htm" rel="nofollow">http://uk.britishcolumbia.travel/en-CA/default.htm</a></p>
<p>and also Holland &#8211; <a href="http://us.holland.com/" rel="nofollow">http://us.holland.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jena</title>
		<link>http://blog.highlandbusinessresearch.com/2007/10/01/how-social-media-like-flickr-and-you-tube-has-become-an-influence-on-destination-selection/comment-page-1/#comment-636</link>
		<dc:creator>Jena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great topic Vicky!

I urge you and your readers to take a look at the My Baltimore site as an example of branded marketing social media website. I think it&#039;s a brilliant idea and hope to see other communities to use this model in the future. 

http://www.visitmybaltimore.com/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great topic Vicky!</p>
<p>I urge you and your readers to take a look at the My Baltimore site as an example of branded marketing social media website. I think it&#8217;s a brilliant idea and hope to see other communities to use this model in the future. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.visitmybaltimore.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.visitmybaltimore.com/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Internet, networks, SMEs and tourism &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mis fotos en mi web&#8230;no vaya a ser que las usen y todo!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Internet, networks, SMEs and tourism &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mis fotos en mi web&#8230;no vaya a ser que las usen y todo!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] del destino? Como puse en el post que hago referencia, a mi modo de ver no. Una investigación de Highland Business Research pone de manifiesto el uso de las plataformas Flickr y Youtube (hostings sociales) como herramientas [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] del destino? Como puse en el post que hago referencia, a mi modo de ver no. Una investigación de Highland Business Research pone de manifiesto el uso de las plataformas Flickr y Youtube (hostings sociales) como herramientas [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
		<link>http://blog.highlandbusinessresearch.com/2007/10/01/how-social-media-like-flickr-and-you-tube-has-become-an-influence-on-destination-selection/comment-page-1/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the headsup on Travature Jeremy, what you&#039;re doing looks interesting.

You make an important point that businesses need to shift focus from themselves towards customers.  

We&#039;re at a point now where online is where the bulk of tourism decisions are formed and the research shows consumers are prepared to trust each other more than they are prepared to trust advertisers and organisations.

I&#039;ve just returned from the Emetrics Summit (post to  follow shortly)  where understanding the customer experience and a customer-centric view of analysis and website strategy were major themes.  

I do think that there is increasing awareness amongst some industries that marketing is shifting to become a two way conversation, but as you note with the tourism industry, there are few prominent shining examples out there yet.

I think it will come, as the market (or at least key segments of the market) will demand it.

I&#039;ve across a few interesting niche examples. But I think from a user perspective, there is inherent trustworthiness in critical mass, where the fake and the extreme views become tempered by the views of the majority. 

I shall finish with a question that I heard posed at Emetrics, where there was a lot of talk about the value of the long tail when it comes to search term measurement and a lot of talk about social media niches.  &quot;Is the long tail the antipathy of social networking or is it the place that will feed social networking?&quot;

I&#039;m not sure I know the answer, but I do think that for  an industry like tourism - where there are millions of consumers, thousands of different types of desired visitor experiences, hundreds of thousands of destinations, millions of different businesses from restaurants to attractions - there is scope for several bigger players to amass a broad, content rich social platform, because consumers are looking for breadth and depth of information about their potential experience.


For anyone unfamiliar with the long tail concept, there original Wired article is here: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/tail.html?pg=1&amp;topic=tail&amp;topic_set=  

Thanks for your comment Jeremy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the headsup on Travature Jeremy, what you&#8217;re doing looks interesting.</p>
<p>You make an important point that businesses need to shift focus from themselves towards customers.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re at a point now where online is where the bulk of tourism decisions are formed and the research shows consumers are prepared to trust each other more than they are prepared to trust advertisers and organisations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just returned from the Emetrics Summit (post to  follow shortly)  where understanding the customer experience and a customer-centric view of analysis and website strategy were major themes.  </p>
<p>I do think that there is increasing awareness amongst some industries that marketing is shifting to become a two way conversation, but as you note with the tourism industry, there are few prominent shining examples out there yet.</p>
<p>I think it will come, as the market (or at least key segments of the market) will demand it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve across a few interesting niche examples. But I think from a user perspective, there is inherent trustworthiness in critical mass, where the fake and the extreme views become tempered by the views of the majority. </p>
<p>I shall finish with a question that I heard posed at Emetrics, where there was a lot of talk about the value of the long tail when it comes to search term measurement and a lot of talk about social media niches.  &#8220;Is the long tail the antipathy of social networking or is it the place that will feed social networking?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I know the answer, but I do think that for  an industry like tourism &#8211; where there are millions of consumers, thousands of different types of desired visitor experiences, hundreds of thousands of destinations, millions of different businesses from restaurants to attractions &#8211; there is scope for several bigger players to amass a broad, content rich social platform, because consumers are looking for breadth and depth of information about their potential experience.</p>
<p>For anyone unfamiliar with the long tail concept, there original Wired article is here: <a href="http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/tail.html?pg=1&#038;topic=tail&#038;topic_set=" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.10/tail.html?pg=1&#038;topic=tail&#038;topic_set=</a>  </p>
<p>Thanks for your comment Jeremy</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://blog.highlandbusinessresearch.com/2007/10/01/how-social-media-like-flickr-and-you-tube-has-become-an-influence-on-destination-selection/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicky, your article was really on point.  As data from social platforms converges, it provides an enormous opportunity to benefit from user driven content  in unexpected ways.  Flickr uploaders may be posting pictures from there vacation, not realizing someone completely random may end up looking at their pictures to get an idea of how their own vacation might end up.  That is the beauty (and beast) of the social platform.  Certainly much of the Internet industry really gets this, and it&#039;s definitely why mashups are so hot right now.

On the otherhand, the travel and tourism industry is, IMHO, slow to adapt to change.  Tripadvisor does crowd sourcing well but they really only handle the hotel  sector.  And besides Tripadvisor, very few other prominent travel companies are taking any advantage of the merging of traditional services with the social platform.  

Travature.com is one of the few new breed travel startups that are actively pursuing the merging of traditional travel services like flight metasearching  with new social concepts like wiki travel guides, community driven restaurant reviews,flickr photostreams, etc.  There is definitely a need for the Tourism Industry needs to shift its focus off themselves and onto the travelers. Hopefully the supposed &quot;travel 2.0&quot; platform, that startup companies like ourselves are working on can be the catalyst.

At any rate, my perspective is with the enormous potential with new media like Youtube, Flickr, and others, its not a matter of will the Travel and Tourism industry be transformed, its just a matter of how much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicky, your article was really on point.  As data from social platforms converges, it provides an enormous opportunity to benefit from user driven content  in unexpected ways.  Flickr uploaders may be posting pictures from there vacation, not realizing someone completely random may end up looking at their pictures to get an idea of how their own vacation might end up.  That is the beauty (and beast) of the social platform.  Certainly much of the Internet industry really gets this, and it&#8217;s definitely why mashups are so hot right now.</p>
<p>On the otherhand, the travel and tourism industry is, IMHO, slow to adapt to change.  Tripadvisor does crowd sourcing well but they really only handle the hotel  sector.  And besides Tripadvisor, very few other prominent travel companies are taking any advantage of the merging of traditional services with the social platform.  </p>
<p>Travature.com is one of the few new breed travel startups that are actively pursuing the merging of traditional travel services like flight metasearching  with new social concepts like wiki travel guides, community driven restaurant reviews,flickr photostreams, etc.  There is definitely a need for the Tourism Industry needs to shift its focus off themselves and onto the travelers. Hopefully the supposed &#8220;travel 2.0&#8243; platform, that startup companies like ourselves are working on can be the catalyst.</p>
<p>At any rate, my perspective is with the enormous potential with new media like Youtube, Flickr, and others, its not a matter of will the Travel and Tourism industry be transformed, its just a matter of how much.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies if your comment has vanished from this thread - it is a wordpress or database issue that I am trying to rectify and not the result of editing! 

I value your comments and am trying to restore them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies if your comment has vanished from this thread &#8211; it is a wordpress or database issue that I am trying to rectify and not the result of editing! </p>
<p>I value your comments and am trying to restore them.</p>
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		<title>By: More than 127 million Europeans now using social networking sites &#124; Tracking Tourism</title>
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		<dc:creator>More than 127 million Europeans now using social networking sites &#124; Tracking Tourism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
		<link>http://blog.highlandbusinessresearch.com/2007/10/01/how-social-media-like-flickr-and-you-tube-has-become-an-influence-on-destination-selection/comment-page-1/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The power of the original  &quot;In Real Life&quot;  - and easily forgotten in all the online social networks excitement.  Thanks for the timely reminder!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The power of the original  &#8220;In Real Life&#8221;  &#8211; and easily forgotten in all the online social networks excitement.  Thanks for the timely reminder!</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
		<link>http://blog.highlandbusinessresearch.com/2007/10/01/how-social-media-like-flickr-and-you-tube-has-become-an-influence-on-destination-selection/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting point Margaret.  

I guess that some of the best surprises as a visitor come from the unexpected gem of a place that you stay in or discover.  And when you come across a place like that in reality, you&#039;ll forgive it being a little rough around the edges if it has some emotional magic or &quot;dream factor&quot;.

And as you say, there have also been cases of faked user generated content.  Not something that goes down well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting point Margaret.  </p>
<p>I guess that some of the best surprises as a visitor come from the unexpected gem of a place that you stay in or discover.  And when you come across a place like that in reality, you&#8217;ll forgive it being a little rough around the edges if it has some emotional magic or &#8220;dream factor&#8221;.</p>
<p>And as you say, there have also been cases of faked user generated content.  Not something that goes down well!</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vicky
Very interesting subject - one comment I would like to make as I am in the Tourism business here in Ireland -  do we want to get &quot;very real&quot; here - most of my guests who pass through my Guesthouse have planned their trip and arrive with a &quot;dream&quot; of Ireland - we all have different aspirations - whilst I feel folks read and are influenced by tripadvisor and such sites it is becoming apparent that a lot of the content is &quot;set up&quot; by the service provider - where does this leave the guest, it will filter out in the end - but again - do we want to get &quot;very real&quot; most people travel for a change from their own invironment - reality is not all it is cracked up to be either - the dream can be the best part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vicky<br />
Very interesting subject &#8211; one comment I would like to make as I am in the Tourism business here in Ireland &#8211;  do we want to get &#8220;very real&#8221; here &#8211; most of my guests who pass through my Guesthouse have planned their trip and arrive with a &#8220;dream&#8221; of Ireland &#8211; we all have different aspirations &#8211; whilst I feel folks read and are influenced by tripadvisor and such sites it is becoming apparent that a lot of the content is &#8220;set up&#8221; by the service provider &#8211; where does this leave the guest, it will filter out in the end &#8211; but again &#8211; do we want to get &#8220;very real&#8221; most people travel for a change from their own invironment &#8211; reality is not all it is cracked up to be either &#8211; the dream can be the best part.</p>
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